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Aug132012

Logic is just too hard.

Headline from Politico blog: Paglia is a birther!

Here's the quote from Camille Paglia that has Glenn Thrush putting on his guaranteed-to-repel-RACISTS tinfoil hat:

First of all, I reject the idea that the “birther” campaign is motivated by racism. There may be racism among it, but there are legitimate questions about the documentation of Obama’s birth certificate. I’m sorry, I’ve been following this closely from the start. To assume that all those signs about the birth controversy were motivated by racism, that is simply wrong.

Tell me where in this quote we find any indication that Camille Paglia is a birther?  That she's open-minded enough to not dismiss the question out of hand I guess makes her a birther.  Or maybe, like so many other things in the leftist mind-control-totalitarian-instinct constellation, if you don't buy the whole package, i.e., that birthers and their slack-jawed, incestuous progenitor siblings, the Tea Partiers, are motivated primarily by RACISM, then you are ONE OF THEM, YOU VILE SEMNIOTIC PROTO-COULTER. 

Someone's been spending too much time in college.

Oh, and on the birther issue, my feelings are these: so and what?  We can't do anything about BO's validity now, and I've always thought that the things we know (but that our wonderful, Constitutionally-protected Fourth Estate-Fifth Column won't publish or pursue) are far more damaging to Barack Obama's electablity than where he was born.

For a long time, I dismissed the birther claims as short-cut conspiracy theories that were, in fact, fueled by xenophobia, and believe me, there is plenty of that going around.  Otherwise normal people have told me that, for example, Marco Rubio, could never be president because he's not "native born"– and he was born here. The circumstances surrounding BO's birth should raise questions.  Apparently, his parents were never legally married and not just on the technicality that BO, Sr. was still legally married to a wife in Kenya.  No one can produce a record of a ceremony, a license, or anything, to my knowledge.  Recently, in David Maraniss's book, it came to light that, unlike the official story, BO's own autobiography, it appears that Barry never "left" Ann because there's no real evidence that they were actually together (I think he characterizes it as Ann leaving BO, Sr., but you need to show that they were together before you can say who left whom.)  Strangely, in my own mind, this shifts the birther equation somewhat.  Wikipedia, having been updated to the standards of two somewhat official biographies (take it for what it's worth: the Ripley puff-piece on Stanley Ann Dunham isn't worth the paper it's written on, I think.  I'll change my mind when I see marriage/divorce docs) says that basically, there is no evidence that his parents lived as man and wife.  Her parents' address is listed on the birth certificate as the residence of his father and mother, and she left with BO, Jr within four weeks of his birth to go to Seattle and attend the University of Washington and didn't return to Hawaii until a year after Barry, Sr. went to Harvard.  There isn't a lot of room here for a trip to Kenya, in my opinion, to give birth to The One and start school 4 weeks later in Seattle.  If my hunch is correct, there is even less reason for Ann to traipse to Kenya to have the baby (where the first wife is, btw), and how the heck could she get out of that country to go to the U of W with an infant from Kenya?  If anyone wants to pursue that line of inquiry, may I suggest a FOIA for State Department records for the time period regarding visas, communications and assistance to American citizens traveling from Kenya with newborns.  Maybe someone has and is now claiming "cover up." More fuel for the fire.

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Matthew 23:24 does seem to anticipate the Left.
August 13, 2012 | Unregistered Commenteraelfheld
Before I looked it up, I was trying to guess which quote. After ruling out "He is a liar and the Father of Lies" because I know that that's a quote from the St. John's Gospel, I thought, "You brood of vipers!"
August 13, 2012 | Registered Commenterbbmoe
I didn't take this issue seriously for a long time, and I still see no reason to believe he was born outside the U.S. But Paglia's right: there are some puzzling questions. Why did his publisher list him as born in Kenya? Why the mystery about the birth certificate itself? It's hard to escape the feeling that he's hiding something.

I think it's even more puzzling that no one at Columbia seems to remember him. Some speculate that he's hiding his college records because he attended as a foreign student. But people remember foreign students. I wonder whether he attended Columbia at all.

In one sense, you're right that there are much more important issues to worry about. But we aren't going to understand the history of these times until we know who this man is and how he managed to become President of the United States.
August 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterPhilo
Well, Philo, you make my point. The incomplete scenario raises questions, and it's just my opinion that the people who were horrified that he won the election grabbed at the question that was the "quick fix" to reverse his rise to power. If the "mis-, dis-" information about his birth had been planned by an experienced agent, it could not have turned out better. The questions about his early years are completely legitimate, in my view, and full answers would probably reveal things that would have made him unelectable. But the over-the-top-conspiracy-theorizing of the birthers has basically poisoned the well for legitimate inquiry. Everyone, including someone as independent as Camille Paglia, are now tarred for just saying, "There are legitimate questions." And Dave Maraniss's book is proof of that, since it contradicts what Obama [Bill Ayers] said about his own life story.

By the way, I understand that Maraniss did find Obama's pals at Columbia and they were a bunch of Pakistanis. Move along, nothing to see here.... (Disclaimer: one of my dearest friends from college, someone I "chat" with several times a month, is a Pakistani living in Karachi)

To me, understanding just how Ann and Barack, Sr. met, whether or not they were ever married, the politics behind the move to Indonesia (otherwise known as "The Year of Living Dangerously"), what kinds of accounts were held at the bank where Granny worked, what State Department program Barry Sr. came over on, under what name BO enrolled at Occidental, and how was that financed, ditto Columbia, ditto Harvard, would make for very interesting reading.

For me, the words, "Hawaii, bank, SE Asia,1960's, Indonesia, State Department" offer an interesting (and telling in and of themselves) array of dots to connect, all of which point Stage Left.
August 13, 2012 | Registered Commenterbbmoe
One note on the Columbia question: Steve H, in his Hog on Ice days, mentioned remembering Bam, then known as Barry Soetoro. So there are people who remember him, even if they don't remember much if anything about him.

As an aside, the picture of Stanley Ann Dunham at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham) is a dead ringer for Nancy Kulp. But Granny would never have let Miss Hathaway run off with some two-timing foreigner.
August 13, 2012 | Unregistered Commenteraelfheld
'Brood of vipers' works.
August 13, 2012 | Unregistered Commenteraelfheld

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